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gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:56 pm
by Dbug
Hi,
some of you are aware that I'm having problems with gmail: Many of the emails I send end-up in people's spam box.

For those of you using gmail: Is there a way to open the spam folder and see the header of the emails to see why they were flagged as spam?
It's getting very tiresome to have email exchanges with people to find out they did not know why you stopped answering them...

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:20 pm
by Symoon
I have the same problem with my own domain name (using Gandi).
Things got better when I used the Gandi mail server to send mails (rather than Free); I read that Google compares the mail server and the domain name from the email address.

That being said it still happens that people get my emails in spam folders. If there's another additional trick, I'd be glad to know ;)

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:30 pm
by iss
Normally I'm using gmail with Mozilla Thunderbird POP/IMAP client and it's easy to see headers.
From Web interface: first open the message and then click on the 3-dots at right and select "Show original".
I hope this is what you need. :)

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:08 pm
by Dbug
iss wrote: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:30 pm I hope this is what you need. :)
Actually what I need is for *you* to tell me if you see anything wrong in the mails I send when they reach your spam folder :)
I don't use gmail myself :D

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:33 pm
by iss
Hehe, I was in hurry to draw sketches, so I read your message very quickly :oops:
Anyway, now I understand what it's about...

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:49 pm
by waskol
Dbug, May be I Can help. Can you send me an email so that I could try to sort it out on my side ?

By the way, may be this can help :
https://glockapps.com/blog/remove-ip-ad ... blacklist/

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:30 am
by Dbug
Done, I sent you the default message I send to people who want to register to the forum.

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:08 am
by waskol
Hello,
Your mail arrived in my main box, no spam hère.

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:16 pm
by Chema
I have no access to a computer today. I can check toour email from my phone, if that may do.

You know my email :)

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:59 pm
by Dbug
@chema: Done

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:51 pm
by iss
I've got spam in my both addresses and PMed the raw content. Here are screenshots:
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Click on the question mark links to G00gle's Bulk Senders Guidelines
My gmail settings have nothing special set (or unset) for spam, filtering, privacy and etc.
... and yes, I do not rely on gmail at all I'm using it just for such tests :).
EDIT: Of course I reported the message as NOT spam.

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:09 pm
by Chema
Exactly the same symptoms here Dbug.

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:50 pm
by Dbug
Ok, so... why did Waskol got the mail just fine, but both Chema and ISS got it in the spam box...

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:51 pm
by waskol
Dbug wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:50 pm Ok, so... why did Waskol got the mail just fine, but both Chema and ISS got it in the spam box...
May be because in the past, I told gmail that your emails where not spam...

Re: gmail and defence-force emails

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:39 pm
by kenneth
@waskol
You should erase your email name in this thread, otherwise naughty robots will disturb you... :roll: