Relay PIN equivalent on a motherboard of a PC computer...?
Symoon: Geocities is dead:
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/close/
Reocities is just an attempt at savig what was there:
http://www.reocities.com/newhome/faq.html
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/close/
Reocities is just an attempt at savig what was there:
http://www.reocities.com/newhome/faq.html
Dbug: yes, sure I knew Geocities died
I thought that was not so bad as I had to re-work most of my pages for years now, and never found time to. I was just surprised (and unhappy) that someone copied the content of my site, and put it online without me being warned and being able to update it. Anyway, since I don't have time to care about it, so be it for the moment!
Chema: about the light pen, Fabrice Francès, IIRC, made a much smarter programming with "Rush Hour" (there's a version using the light pen). The only flaw was that he used the red color for the player's car, color which was almost not detected by the pen.
I thought that was not so bad as I had to re-work most of my pages for years now, and never found time to. I was just surprised (and unhappy) that someone copied the content of my site, and put it online without me being warned and being able to update it. Anyway, since I don't have time to care about it, so be it for the moment!
Chema: about the light pen, Fabrice Francès, IIRC, made a much smarter programming with "Rush Hour" (there's a version using the light pen). The only flaw was that he used the red color for the player's car, color which was almost not detected by the pen.
Re: Coordinate system for LightPen
Unusual coordinat system for Lightpen;
The center (zero coordinates) is around PRINT@ 6,24 in TEXT/Lores mode.
And here it is in detail - screen coordinates (Txt mode) and LightPen equivalent (derived from PEEK (992) and (993))
Example: at PRINT@ 6,0 PEEK (992) would be around 255 and PEEK (993) would be around value 64.
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You must copy and paste this into a NotePad, and then turn OFF the WordWrap feature in order to see this correctly.
This chart has been made with usage of Iskra2000
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````` 0`` |````1`` |````2`` |````3`` |````4`` |````5`` |````6`` |````7`` |````8`` |````9`` |````10``|````11``|````12``|````13``|````14``|````15``|````16``|````17``|````18``|````19``|`` 20`` |`` 21`` |`` 22`` |`` 23`` |`` 24`` |`` 25`` |`` 26`` |`` 27`` |`` 28`` |`` 29`` |`` 30`` |`` 31`` |`` 32`` |`` 33`` |`` 34`` |`` 35`` |`` 36`` |`` 37`` |`` 38`` |`` 39`` |
0``219, 64| 225, 64| 231, 64| 237, 64| 243, 64| 249, 64| 255, 64|`` 5, 64|``11, 64|``17, 64|``23, 64|``29, 64|``35, 64|``41, 64|``47, 64|``53, 64|``59, 64|``65, 64|``71, 64|``77, 64|``84, 64|``89, 64|``95, 64| 102, 64| 107, 64| 113, 64| 119, 64| 125, 64| 131, 64| 137, 64| 143, 64| 150, 64| 155, 64| 161, 64| 167, 64| 173, 64| 179, 64| 185, 64| 192, 64| 198, 64|
1``219, 72| 225, 72| 231, 72| 237, 72| 243, 72| 249, 72| 255, 72|`` 5, 72|``11, 72|``17, 72|``23, 72|``29, 72|``35, 72|``41, 72|``47, 72|``53, 72|``59, 72|``65, 72|``71, 72|``77, 72|``84, 72|``89, 72|``95, 72| 102, 72| 107, 72| 113, 72| 119, 72| 125, 72| 131, 72| 137, 72| 143, 72| 150, 72| 155, 72| 161, 72| 167, 72| 173, 72| 179, 72| 185, 72| 192, 72| 198, 72|
2``219, 80| 225, 80| 231, 80| 237, 80| 243, 80| 249, 80| 255, 80|`` 5, 80|``11, 80|``17, 80|``23, 80|``29, 80|``35, 80|``41, 80|``47, 80|``53, 80|``59, 80|``65, 80|``71, 80|``77, 80|``84, 80|``89, 80|``95, 80| 102, 80| 107, 80| 113, 80| 119, 80| 125, 80| 131, 80| 137, 80| 143, 80| 150, 80| 155, 80| 161, 80| 167, 80| 173, 80| 179, 80| 185, 80| 192, 80| 198, 80|
3``219, 88| 225, 88| 231, 88| 237, 88| 243, 88| 249, 88| 255, 88|`` 5, 88|``11, 88|``17, 88|``23, 88|``29, 88|``35, 88|``41, 88|``47, 88|``53, 88|``59, 88|``65, 88|``71, 88|``77, 88|``84, 88|``89, 88|``95, 88| 102, 88| 107, 88| 113, 88| 119, 88| 125, 88| 131, 88| 137, 88| 143, 88| 150, 88| 155, 88| 161, 88| 167, 88| 173, 88| 179, 88| 185, 88| 192, 88| 198, 88|
4``219, 96| 225, 96| 231, 96| 237, 96| 243, 96| 249, 96| 255, 96|`` 5, 96|``11, 96|``17, 96|``23, 96|``29, 96|``35, 96|``41, 96|``47, 96|``53, 96|``59, 96|``65, 96|``71, 96|``77, 96|``84, 96|``89, 96|``95,96 | 102, 96| 107, 96| 113, 96| 119, 96| 125, 96| 131, 96| 137, 96| 143, 96| 150, 96| 155, 96| 161, 96| 167, 96| 173, 96| 179, 96| 185, 96| 192, 96| 198, 96|
5``219,104| 225,104| 231,104| 237,104| 243,104| 249,104| 255,104|`` 5,104|``11,104|``17,104|``23,104|``29,104|``35,104|``41,104|``47,104|``53,104|``59,104|``65,104|``71,104|``77,104|``84,104|``89,104|``95,104| 102,104| 107,104| 113,104| 119,104| 125,104| 131,104| 137,104| 143,104| 150,104| 155,104| 161,104| 167,104| 173,104| 179,104| 185,104| 192,104| 198,104|
6``219,112| 225,112| 231,112| 237,112| 243,112| 249,112| 255,112|`` 5,112|``11,112|``17,112|``23,112|``29,112|``35,112|``41,112|``47,112|``53,112|``59,112|``65,112|``71,112|``77,112|``84,112|``89,112|``95,112| 102,112| 107,112| 113,112| 119,112| 125,112| 131,112| 137,112| 143,112| 150,112| 155,112| 161,112| 167,112| 173,112| 179,112| 185,112| 192,112| 198,112|
7``219,120| 225,120| 231,120| 237,120| 243,120| 249,120| 255,120|`` 5,120|``11,120|``17,120|``23,120|``29,120|``35,120|``41,120|``47,120|``53,120|``59,120|``65,120|``71,120|``77,120|``84,120|``89,120|``95,120| 102,120| 107,120| 113,120| 119,120| 125,120| 131,120| 137,120| 143,120| 150,120| 155,120| 161,120| 167,120| 173,120| 179,120| 185,120| 192,120| 198,120|
8``219,128| 225,128| 231,128| 237,128| 243,128| 249,128| 255,128|`` 5,128|``11,128|``17,128|``23,128|``29,128|``35,128|``41,128|``47,128|``53,128|``59,128|``65,128|``71,128|``77,128|``84,128|``89,128|``95,128| 102,128| 107,128| 113,128| 119,128| 125,128| 131,128| 137,128| 143,128| 150,128| 155,128| 161,128| 167,128| 173,128| 179,128| 185,128| 192,128| 198,128|
9``219,136| 225,136| 231,136| 237,136| 243,136| 249,136| 255,136|`` 5,136|``11,136|``17,136|``23,136|``29,136|``35,136|``41,136|``47,136|``53,136|``59,136|``65,136|``71,136|``77,136|``84,136|``89,136|``95,136| 102,136| 107,136| 113,136| 119,136| 125,136| 131,136| 137,136| 143,136| 150,136| 155,136| 161,136| 167,136| 173,136| 179,136| 185,136| 192,136| 198,136|
10`219,144| 225,144| 231,144| 237,144| 243,144| 249,144| 255,144|`` 5,144|``11,144|``17,144|``23,144|``29,144|``35,144|``41,144|``47,144|``53,144|``59,144|``65,144|``71,144|``77,144|``84,144|``89,144|``95,144| 102,144| 107,144| 113,144| 119,144| 125,144| 131,144| 137,144| 143,144| 150,144| 155,144| 161,144| 167,144| 173,144| 179,144| 185,144| 192,144| 198,144|
11`219,152| 225,152| 231,152| 237,152| 243,152| 249,152| 255,152|`` 5,152|``11,152|``17,152|``23,152|``29,152|``35,152|``41,152|``47,152|``53,152|``59,152|``65,152|``71,152|``77,152|``84,152|``89,152|``95,152| 102,152| 107,152| 113,152| 119,152| 125,152| 131,152| 137,152| 143,152| 150,152| 155,152| 161,152| 167,152| 173,152| 179,152| 185,152| 192,152| 198,152|
12`219,160| 225,160| 231,160| 237,160| 243,160| 249,160| 255,160|`` 5,160|``11,160|``17,160|``23,160|``29,160|``35,160|``41,160|``47,160|``53,160|``59,160|``65,160|``71,160|``77,160|``84,160|``89,160|``95,160| 102,160| 107,160| 113,160| 119,160| 125,160| 131,160| 137,160| 143,160| 150,160| 155,160| 161,160| 167,160| 173,160| 179,160| 185,160| 192,160| 198,160|
13`219,168| 225,168| 231,168| 237,168| 243,168| 249,168| 255,168|`` 5,168|``11,168|``17,168|``23,168|``29,168|``35,168|``41,168|``47,168|``53,168|``59,168|``65,168|``71,168|``77,168|``84,168|``89,168|``95,168| 102,168| 107,168| 113,168| 119,168| 125,168| 131,168| 137,168| 143,168| 150,168| 155,168| 161,168| 167,168| 173,168| 179,168| 185,168| 192,168| 198,168|
14`219,176| 225,176| 231,176| 237,176| 243,176| 249,176| 255,176|`` 5,176|``11,176|``17,176|``23,176|``29,176|``35,176|``41,176|``47,176|``53,176|``59,176|``65,176|``71,176|``77,176|``84,176|``89,176|``95,176| 102,176| 107,176| 113,176| 119,176| 125,176| 131,176| 137,176| 143,176| 150,176| 155,176| 161,176| 167,176| 173,176| 179,176| 185,176| 192,176| 198,176|
15`219,184| 225,184| 231,184| 237,184| 243,184| 249,184| 255,184|`` 5,184|``11,184|``17,184|``23,184|``29,184|``35,184|``41,184|``47,184|``53,184|``59,184|``65,184|``71,184|``77,184|``84,184|``89,184|``95,184| 102,184| 107,184| 113,184| 119,184| 125,184| 131,184| 137,184| 143,184| 150,184| 155,184| 161,184| 167,184| 173,184| 179,184| 185,184| 192,184| 198,184|
16`219,192| 225,192| 231,192| 237,192| 243,192| 249,192| 255,192|`` 5,192|``11,192|``17,192|``23,192|``29,192|``35,192|``41,192|``47,192|``53,192|``59,192|``65,192|``71,192|``77,192|``84,192|``89,192|``95,192| 102,192| 107,192| 113,192| 119,192| 125,192| 131,192| 137,192| 143,192| 150,192| 155,192| 161,192| 167,192| 173,192| 179,192| 185,192| 192,192| 198,192|
17`219,200| 225,200| 231,200| 237,200| 243,200| 249,200| 255,200|`` 5,200|``11,200|``17,200|``23,200|``29,200|``35,200|``41,200|``47,200|``53,200|``59,200|``65,200|``71,200|``77,200|``84,200|``89,200|``95,200| 102,200| 107,200| 113,200| 119,200| 125,200| 131,200| 137,200| 143,200| 150,200| 155,200| 161,200| 167,200| 173,200| 179,200| 185,200| 192,200| 198,200|
18`219,208| 225,208| 231,208| 237,208| 243,208| 249,208| 255,208|`` 5,208|``11,208|``17,208|``23,208|``29,208|``35,208|``41,208|``47,208|``53,208|``59,208|``65,208|``71,208|``77,208|``84,208|``89,208|``95,208| 102,208| 107,208| 113,208| 119,208| 125,208| 131,208| 137,208| 143,208| 150,208| 155,208| 161,208| 167,208| 173,208| 179,208| 185,208| 192,208| 198,208|
19`219,216| 225,216| 231,216| 237,216| 243,216| 249,216| 25?,216|`` 5,216|``11,216|``17,216|``23,216|``29,216|``35,216|``41,216|``47,216|``53,216|``59,216|``65,216|``71,216|``77,216|``84,216|``89,216|``95,216| 102,216| 107,216| 113,216| 119,216| 125,216| 131,216| 137,216| 143,216| 150,216| 155,216| 161,216| 167,216| 173,216| 179,216| 185,216| 192,216| 198,216|
20`219,224| 225,224| 231,224| 237,224| 243,224| 249,224| 255,224|`` 5,224|``11,224|``17,224|``23,224|``29,224|``35,224|``41,224|``47,224|``53,224|``59,224|``65,224|``71,224|``77,224|``84,224|``89,224|``95,224| 102,224| 107,224| 113,224| 119,224| 125,224| 131,224| 137,224| 143,224| 150,224| 155,224| 161,224| 167,224| 173,224| 179,224| 185,224| 192,224| 198,224|
21`219,232| 225,232| 231,232| 237,232| 243,232| 249,232| 255,232|`` 5,232|``11,232|``17,232|``23,232|``29,232|``35,232|``41,232|``47,232|``53,232|``59,232|``65,232|``71,232|``77,232|``84,232|``89,232|``95,232| 102,232| 107,232| 113,232| 119,232| 125,232| 131,232| 137,232| 143,232| 150,232| 155,232| 161,232| 167,232| 173,232| 179,232| 185,232| 192,232| 198,232|
22`219,240| 225,240| 231,240| 237,240| 243,240| 249,240| 255,240|`` 5,240|``11,240|``17,240|``23,240|``29,240|``35,240|``41,240|``47,240|``53,240|``59,240|``65,240|``71,240|``77,240|``84,240|``89,240|``95,240| 102,240| 107,240| 113,240| 119,240| 125,240| 131,240| 137,240| 143,240| 150,240| 155,240| 161,240| 167,240| 173,240| 179,240| 185,240| 192,240| 198,240|
23`219,248| 225,248| 231,248| 237,248| 243,248| 249,248| 255,248|`` 5,248|``11,248|``17,248|``23,248|``29,248|``35,248|``41,248|``47,248|``53,248|``59,248|``65,248|``71,248|``77,248|``84,248|``89,248|``95,248| 102,248| 107,248| 113,248| 119,248| 125,248| 131,248| 137,248| 143,248| 150,248| 155,248| 161,248| 167,248| 173,248| 179,248| 185,248| 192,248| 198,248|
24`219,``0| 225,``0| 231,``0| 237,``0| 243,``0| 249,``0| 255,``0|`` 5,``0|``11,``0|``17,``0|``23,``0|``29,``0|``35,``0|``41,``0|``47,``0|``53,``0|``59,``0|``65,``0|``71,``0|``77,``0|``84,``0|``89,``0|``95,``0| 102,``0| 107,``0| 113,``0| 119,``0| 125,``0| 131,``0| 137,``0| 143,``0| 150,``0| 155,``0| 161,``0| 167,``0| 173,``0| 179,``0| 185,``0| 192,``0| 198,``0|
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The center (zero coordinates) is around PRINT@ 6,24 in TEXT/Lores mode.
And here it is in detail - screen coordinates (Txt mode) and LightPen equivalent (derived from PEEK (992) and (993))
Example: at PRINT@ 6,0 PEEK (992) would be around 255 and PEEK (993) would be around value 64.
NOTICE:
You must copy and paste this into a NotePad, and then turn OFF the WordWrap feature in order to see this correctly.
This chart has been made with usage of Iskra2000
Please ignore the `` sign, that is just a double space. It is needed on the forum to synchronize the lines of the text more correctly!
Begin
````` 0`` |````1`` |````2`` |````3`` |````4`` |````5`` |````6`` |````7`` |````8`` |````9`` |````10``|````11``|````12``|````13``|````14``|````15``|````16``|````17``|````18``|````19``|`` 20`` |`` 21`` |`` 22`` |`` 23`` |`` 24`` |`` 25`` |`` 26`` |`` 27`` |`` 28`` |`` 29`` |`` 30`` |`` 31`` |`` 32`` |`` 33`` |`` 34`` |`` 35`` |`` 36`` |`` 37`` |`` 38`` |`` 39`` |
0``219, 64| 225, 64| 231, 64| 237, 64| 243, 64| 249, 64| 255, 64|`` 5, 64|``11, 64|``17, 64|``23, 64|``29, 64|``35, 64|``41, 64|``47, 64|``53, 64|``59, 64|``65, 64|``71, 64|``77, 64|``84, 64|``89, 64|``95, 64| 102, 64| 107, 64| 113, 64| 119, 64| 125, 64| 131, 64| 137, 64| 143, 64| 150, 64| 155, 64| 161, 64| 167, 64| 173, 64| 179, 64| 185, 64| 192, 64| 198, 64|
1``219, 72| 225, 72| 231, 72| 237, 72| 243, 72| 249, 72| 255, 72|`` 5, 72|``11, 72|``17, 72|``23, 72|``29, 72|``35, 72|``41, 72|``47, 72|``53, 72|``59, 72|``65, 72|``71, 72|``77, 72|``84, 72|``89, 72|``95, 72| 102, 72| 107, 72| 113, 72| 119, 72| 125, 72| 131, 72| 137, 72| 143, 72| 150, 72| 155, 72| 161, 72| 167, 72| 173, 72| 179, 72| 185, 72| 192, 72| 198, 72|
2``219, 80| 225, 80| 231, 80| 237, 80| 243, 80| 249, 80| 255, 80|`` 5, 80|``11, 80|``17, 80|``23, 80|``29, 80|``35, 80|``41, 80|``47, 80|``53, 80|``59, 80|``65, 80|``71, 80|``77, 80|``84, 80|``89, 80|``95, 80| 102, 80| 107, 80| 113, 80| 119, 80| 125, 80| 131, 80| 137, 80| 143, 80| 150, 80| 155, 80| 161, 80| 167, 80| 173, 80| 179, 80| 185, 80| 192, 80| 198, 80|
3``219, 88| 225, 88| 231, 88| 237, 88| 243, 88| 249, 88| 255, 88|`` 5, 88|``11, 88|``17, 88|``23, 88|``29, 88|``35, 88|``41, 88|``47, 88|``53, 88|``59, 88|``65, 88|``71, 88|``77, 88|``84, 88|``89, 88|``95, 88| 102, 88| 107, 88| 113, 88| 119, 88| 125, 88| 131, 88| 137, 88| 143, 88| 150, 88| 155, 88| 161, 88| 167, 88| 173, 88| 179, 88| 185, 88| 192, 88| 198, 88|
4``219, 96| 225, 96| 231, 96| 237, 96| 243, 96| 249, 96| 255, 96|`` 5, 96|``11, 96|``17, 96|``23, 96|``29, 96|``35, 96|``41, 96|``47, 96|``53, 96|``59, 96|``65, 96|``71, 96|``77, 96|``84, 96|``89, 96|``95,96 | 102, 96| 107, 96| 113, 96| 119, 96| 125, 96| 131, 96| 137, 96| 143, 96| 150, 96| 155, 96| 161, 96| 167, 96| 173, 96| 179, 96| 185, 96| 192, 96| 198, 96|
5``219,104| 225,104| 231,104| 237,104| 243,104| 249,104| 255,104|`` 5,104|``11,104|``17,104|``23,104|``29,104|``35,104|``41,104|``47,104|``53,104|``59,104|``65,104|``71,104|``77,104|``84,104|``89,104|``95,104| 102,104| 107,104| 113,104| 119,104| 125,104| 131,104| 137,104| 143,104| 150,104| 155,104| 161,104| 167,104| 173,104| 179,104| 185,104| 192,104| 198,104|
6``219,112| 225,112| 231,112| 237,112| 243,112| 249,112| 255,112|`` 5,112|``11,112|``17,112|``23,112|``29,112|``35,112|``41,112|``47,112|``53,112|``59,112|``65,112|``71,112|``77,112|``84,112|``89,112|``95,112| 102,112| 107,112| 113,112| 119,112| 125,112| 131,112| 137,112| 143,112| 150,112| 155,112| 161,112| 167,112| 173,112| 179,112| 185,112| 192,112| 198,112|
7``219,120| 225,120| 231,120| 237,120| 243,120| 249,120| 255,120|`` 5,120|``11,120|``17,120|``23,120|``29,120|``35,120|``41,120|``47,120|``53,120|``59,120|``65,120|``71,120|``77,120|``84,120|``89,120|``95,120| 102,120| 107,120| 113,120| 119,120| 125,120| 131,120| 137,120| 143,120| 150,120| 155,120| 161,120| 167,120| 173,120| 179,120| 185,120| 192,120| 198,120|
8``219,128| 225,128| 231,128| 237,128| 243,128| 249,128| 255,128|`` 5,128|``11,128|``17,128|``23,128|``29,128|``35,128|``41,128|``47,128|``53,128|``59,128|``65,128|``71,128|``77,128|``84,128|``89,128|``95,128| 102,128| 107,128| 113,128| 119,128| 125,128| 131,128| 137,128| 143,128| 150,128| 155,128| 161,128| 167,128| 173,128| 179,128| 185,128| 192,128| 198,128|
9``219,136| 225,136| 231,136| 237,136| 243,136| 249,136| 255,136|`` 5,136|``11,136|``17,136|``23,136|``29,136|``35,136|``41,136|``47,136|``53,136|``59,136|``65,136|``71,136|``77,136|``84,136|``89,136|``95,136| 102,136| 107,136| 113,136| 119,136| 125,136| 131,136| 137,136| 143,136| 150,136| 155,136| 161,136| 167,136| 173,136| 179,136| 185,136| 192,136| 198,136|
10`219,144| 225,144| 231,144| 237,144| 243,144| 249,144| 255,144|`` 5,144|``11,144|``17,144|``23,144|``29,144|``35,144|``41,144|``47,144|``53,144|``59,144|``65,144|``71,144|``77,144|``84,144|``89,144|``95,144| 102,144| 107,144| 113,144| 119,144| 125,144| 131,144| 137,144| 143,144| 150,144| 155,144| 161,144| 167,144| 173,144| 179,144| 185,144| 192,144| 198,144|
11`219,152| 225,152| 231,152| 237,152| 243,152| 249,152| 255,152|`` 5,152|``11,152|``17,152|``23,152|``29,152|``35,152|``41,152|``47,152|``53,152|``59,152|``65,152|``71,152|``77,152|``84,152|``89,152|``95,152| 102,152| 107,152| 113,152| 119,152| 125,152| 131,152| 137,152| 143,152| 150,152| 155,152| 161,152| 167,152| 173,152| 179,152| 185,152| 192,152| 198,152|
12`219,160| 225,160| 231,160| 237,160| 243,160| 249,160| 255,160|`` 5,160|``11,160|``17,160|``23,160|``29,160|``35,160|``41,160|``47,160|``53,160|``59,160|``65,160|``71,160|``77,160|``84,160|``89,160|``95,160| 102,160| 107,160| 113,160| 119,160| 125,160| 131,160| 137,160| 143,160| 150,160| 155,160| 161,160| 167,160| 173,160| 179,160| 185,160| 192,160| 198,160|
13`219,168| 225,168| 231,168| 237,168| 243,168| 249,168| 255,168|`` 5,168|``11,168|``17,168|``23,168|``29,168|``35,168|``41,168|``47,168|``53,168|``59,168|``65,168|``71,168|``77,168|``84,168|``89,168|``95,168| 102,168| 107,168| 113,168| 119,168| 125,168| 131,168| 137,168| 143,168| 150,168| 155,168| 161,168| 167,168| 173,168| 179,168| 185,168| 192,168| 198,168|
14`219,176| 225,176| 231,176| 237,176| 243,176| 249,176| 255,176|`` 5,176|``11,176|``17,176|``23,176|``29,176|``35,176|``41,176|``47,176|``53,176|``59,176|``65,176|``71,176|``77,176|``84,176|``89,176|``95,176| 102,176| 107,176| 113,176| 119,176| 125,176| 131,176| 137,176| 143,176| 150,176| 155,176| 161,176| 167,176| 173,176| 179,176| 185,176| 192,176| 198,176|
15`219,184| 225,184| 231,184| 237,184| 243,184| 249,184| 255,184|`` 5,184|``11,184|``17,184|``23,184|``29,184|``35,184|``41,184|``47,184|``53,184|``59,184|``65,184|``71,184|``77,184|``84,184|``89,184|``95,184| 102,184| 107,184| 113,184| 119,184| 125,184| 131,184| 137,184| 143,184| 150,184| 155,184| 161,184| 167,184| 173,184| 179,184| 185,184| 192,184| 198,184|
16`219,192| 225,192| 231,192| 237,192| 243,192| 249,192| 255,192|`` 5,192|``11,192|``17,192|``23,192|``29,192|``35,192|``41,192|``47,192|``53,192|``59,192|``65,192|``71,192|``77,192|``84,192|``89,192|``95,192| 102,192| 107,192| 113,192| 119,192| 125,192| 131,192| 137,192| 143,192| 150,192| 155,192| 161,192| 167,192| 173,192| 179,192| 185,192| 192,192| 198,192|
17`219,200| 225,200| 231,200| 237,200| 243,200| 249,200| 255,200|`` 5,200|``11,200|``17,200|``23,200|``29,200|``35,200|``41,200|``47,200|``53,200|``59,200|``65,200|``71,200|``77,200|``84,200|``89,200|``95,200| 102,200| 107,200| 113,200| 119,200| 125,200| 131,200| 137,200| 143,200| 150,200| 155,200| 161,200| 167,200| 173,200| 179,200| 185,200| 192,200| 198,200|
18`219,208| 225,208| 231,208| 237,208| 243,208| 249,208| 255,208|`` 5,208|``11,208|``17,208|``23,208|``29,208|``35,208|``41,208|``47,208|``53,208|``59,208|``65,208|``71,208|``77,208|``84,208|``89,208|``95,208| 102,208| 107,208| 113,208| 119,208| 125,208| 131,208| 137,208| 143,208| 150,208| 155,208| 161,208| 167,208| 173,208| 179,208| 185,208| 192,208| 198,208|
19`219,216| 225,216| 231,216| 237,216| 243,216| 249,216| 25?,216|`` 5,216|``11,216|``17,216|``23,216|``29,216|``35,216|``41,216|``47,216|``53,216|``59,216|``65,216|``71,216|``77,216|``84,216|``89,216|``95,216| 102,216| 107,216| 113,216| 119,216| 125,216| 131,216| 137,216| 143,216| 150,216| 155,216| 161,216| 167,216| 173,216| 179,216| 185,216| 192,216| 198,216|
20`219,224| 225,224| 231,224| 237,224| 243,224| 249,224| 255,224|`` 5,224|``11,224|``17,224|``23,224|``29,224|``35,224|``41,224|``47,224|``53,224|``59,224|``65,224|``71,224|``77,224|``84,224|``89,224|``95,224| 102,224| 107,224| 113,224| 119,224| 125,224| 131,224| 137,224| 143,224| 150,224| 155,224| 161,224| 167,224| 173,224| 179,224| 185,224| 192,224| 198,224|
21`219,232| 225,232| 231,232| 237,232| 243,232| 249,232| 255,232|`` 5,232|``11,232|``17,232|``23,232|``29,232|``35,232|``41,232|``47,232|``53,232|``59,232|``65,232|``71,232|``77,232|``84,232|``89,232|``95,232| 102,232| 107,232| 113,232| 119,232| 125,232| 131,232| 137,232| 143,232| 150,232| 155,232| 161,232| 167,232| 173,232| 179,232| 185,232| 192,232| 198,232|
22`219,240| 225,240| 231,240| 237,240| 243,240| 249,240| 255,240|`` 5,240|``11,240|``17,240|``23,240|``29,240|``35,240|``41,240|``47,240|``53,240|``59,240|``65,240|``71,240|``77,240|``84,240|``89,240|``95,240| 102,240| 107,240| 113,240| 119,240| 125,240| 131,240| 137,240| 143,240| 150,240| 155,240| 161,240| 167,240| 173,240| 179,240| 185,240| 192,240| 198,240|
23`219,248| 225,248| 231,248| 237,248| 243,248| 249,248| 255,248|`` 5,248|``11,248|``17,248|``23,248|``29,248|``35,248|``41,248|``47,248|``53,248|``59,248|``65,248|``71,248|``77,248|``84,248|``89,248|``95,248| 102,248| 107,248| 113,248| 119,248| 125,248| 131,248| 137,248| 143,248| 150,248| 155,248| 161,248| 167,248| 173,248| 179,248| 185,248| 192,248| 198,248|
24`219,``0| 225,``0| 231,``0| 237,``0| 243,``0| 249,``0| 255,``0|`` 5,``0|``11,``0|``17,``0|``23,``0|``29,``0|``35,``0|``41,``0|``47,``0|``53,``0|``59,``0|``65,``0|``71,``0|``77,``0|``84,``0|``89,``0|``95,``0| 102,``0| 107,``0| 113,``0| 119,``0| 125,``0| 131,``0| 137,``0| 143,``0| 150,``0| 155,``0| 161,``0| 167,``0| 173,``0| 179,``0| 185,``0| 192,``0| 198,``0|
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Only problem for lightpen is that it expects NEW coordinate at each "click" in order to "register" that new click!
Example: I "click" the mouse at some coordinates on the screen, then I do the PEEK, and I get the screen coordinates... That is OK!
But, now, I can NOT click AGAIN - before I move the mouse (lightpen) a little bit on the screen! I MUST move it to some new position on the screen or else PEEK would not work...
In another words, this lightpen system is designed to derive screen coordinates of the screen pointer, but NOT the actual TIME when the mouse (lightpen) was CLICK-ed!
Only way to use this method (mouse/lighhtpen) as the Start / Stop for a chronometer is to move a screen pointer on the screen a little bit in between the clicks! And this would require a user (human) "input", so it can NOT be 100% automatic! (
So - back to my "drawingboard"! Looks like I'll have to dissasamble a PS2 keyboard and use the "Shift" or some other key to solve photo optic on it...
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P.S. I got my hands on a LCD-touch screen monitor!
I wonder could Euphoric detect OnScreenTouch via LightPen method on this monitor??? I am currently searching for the DOS-based drivers (if any exist!) for this Lcd-Touch-Screen!
Example: I "click" the mouse at some coordinates on the screen, then I do the PEEK, and I get the screen coordinates... That is OK!
But, now, I can NOT click AGAIN - before I move the mouse (lightpen) a little bit on the screen! I MUST move it to some new position on the screen or else PEEK would not work...
In another words, this lightpen system is designed to derive screen coordinates of the screen pointer, but NOT the actual TIME when the mouse (lightpen) was CLICK-ed!
Only way to use this method (mouse/lighhtpen) as the Start / Stop for a chronometer is to move a screen pointer on the screen a little bit in between the clicks! And this would require a user (human) "input", so it can NOT be 100% automatic! (
So - back to my "drawingboard"! Looks like I'll have to dissasamble a PS2 keyboard and use the "Shift" or some other key to solve photo optic on it...
-----------------
P.S. I got my hands on a LCD-touch screen monitor!
I wonder could Euphoric detect OnScreenTouch via LightPen method on this monitor??? I am currently searching for the DOS-based drivers (if any exist!) for this Lcd-Touch-Screen!
a few things:Brana wrote:Only problem for lightpen is that it expects NEW coordinate at each "click" in order to "register" that new click!
Example: I "click" the mouse at some coordinates on the screen, then I do the PEEK, and I get the screen coordinates... That is OK!
But, now, I can NOT click AGAIN - before I move the mouse (lightpen) a little bit on the screen! I MUST move it to some new position on the screen or else PEEK would not work...
- on a real screen, it's extremely rare to point to the same coordinates. Only with Euphoric and its perfect behaviour is it possible to click on the exact same values
- the values also change on a real screen, from one screen to another. If you plan to use this on a real machine, you should include some calibration system
- I forgot the initial goal so forgive me if that's a stupid idea, but couldn't you poke zero values in 992 and 993 once you have read the coordinates ? So if you "click" again at the same location, you can detect there has been a new click
Sorry for the delay
What should I POKE to?
Do I Poke (992) and (993)? If so, then with what (with zero?)
I have tried to poke 992 and 993, and it did not change a thing
Or - perhaps I did something wrong...?
Example, if I do the "mouse click", then PEEK (992) would have the value of, example 249, and PEEK (993) would have the value of 80.
Then I do the POKE (992) with, example 0 (zero), and also POKE (993) with 0 (zero).
But, after that, when I do the PEEK (992) I still get old value of 249, and for PEEK (993) -> 80.
Am I poking the wrong address, or it can not be done by simple "poke"-ing?
What should I POKE to?
Do I Poke (992) and (993)? If so, then with what (with zero?)
I have tried to poke 992 and 993, and it did not change a thing
Or - perhaps I did something wrong...?
Example, if I do the "mouse click", then PEEK (992) would have the value of, example 249, and PEEK (993) would have the value of 80.
Then I do the POKE (992) with, example 0 (zero), and also POKE (993) with 0 (zero).
But, after that, when I do the PEEK (992) I still get old value of 249, and for PEEK (993) -> 80.
Am I poking the wrong address, or it can not be done by simple "poke"-ing?
Oops... I just realized that that address is in I/O space, so it seems normal that you can't poke on it as it is no physical memory.
We should study how the lightpen hardware works. I guess it updates the values of some registers (namely #3E0-#3E1) whenever you press the pen?
In that case you can't tell the difference from two presses on the same screen area.. I think we need more information about the lightpen hardware (I miss you Fabrice).
We should study how the lightpen hardware works. I guess it updates the values of some registers (namely #3E0-#3E1) whenever you press the pen?
In that case you can't tell the difference from two presses on the same screen area.. I think we need more information about the lightpen hardware (I miss you Fabrice).
Chema, with the real hardware, the register values change as soon as you move the pen and a light is detected.
From a user point of view on a real hardware (and from very old memories):
- the pen doesn't react on black screen, and hardly (if not at all) on red color
- the pen reacts on all other colors, sometimes starting to detect them at 1cm from the screen if they are very bright. Hence, it is almost impossible to point the exact same place twice without values changing in the meantime: even if you manage to point the same place, it's very likely that the values will change a little when you remove the pen, and when you approach it again.
All this makes different working conditions from Euphoric - but I can't see how Fabrice could have done better.
BTW, never tested the light pen on a LCD screen, not sure it would work?
From a user point of view on a real hardware (and from very old memories):
- the pen doesn't react on black screen, and hardly (if not at all) on red color
- the pen reacts on all other colors, sometimes starting to detect them at 1cm from the screen if they are very bright. Hence, it is almost impossible to point the exact same place twice without values changing in the meantime: even if you manage to point the same place, it's very likely that the values will change a little when you remove the pen, and when you approach it again.
All this makes different working conditions from Euphoric - but I can't see how Fabrice could have done better.
BTW, never tested the light pen on a LCD screen, not sure it would work?